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  • Drawing Tips - hidden feature

    Posted 06/20/07 by Ove Cervin

    Hello again,

    Yesterday we were in the office outside London (Farnborough). In the evening we went to a small place called Fleet. For some reason the weather went "tropic like" when we were going to the hotel and a heavy thunderstorm were coming in. A LOT of rain... We got W-E-T. Actually the streets were flooded. The drainage in that are could really need some upgrade... But the food made us feel much better soon after. And what is some rain? - some people would really love to have more rain...

    When we were working on the beta version of C3D 2008 some of us noticed a nice feature when doing design on the Alignment or Profile. That functionality later in the beta period disappered.

    This little thing has been presented on Dave and Dans Blog (The Dave and Dan Civil 3D Show) earlier and can be found here.

    The reason I'm adding it again is that I think a lot of people have not seen it. ;-) ...and hopefully my small images can explain even more what this actually does.

    What I mean is the nice little "marker line" that traced your section in the Profile View when you were moving the cursor along the Alignment in Plan view.
    That feature setting is still in C3D 2008, but as a "hidden command". It will probably be more developed before it becomes a standard public command. But it IS nice already...
    The use of this "feature" is what's displayed in the screenshots below.
    First is a shot showing Plan and Profile View.
    16-1small.png

    You can see the cursor in Plan. What is interesting is that the Section is presented as a black line also in the Profile View - simultaniously. This is all in the same View in the drawing.
    Command: ShowDrawingTips

    Next shot is presenting the other way around, cursor in Profile View also presents a Section line in Plan at the same time!
    16-2small.png

    The last screenshot presents an alternative setting for the command;
    Command: ShowDrawingTipsFull
    This gives a simultane line in all Views if you move your cursor. In the image below I have three views presenting Section, Plan and Profile. If the cursor is in any view you get a line/marker/leader in all the other views.
    I have the cursor in Section view (top left) and the line is following in Plan and Profile View.
    16-3small.png

    View image

    To turn the command off; use: Command: HideDrawingTips

    Try it out and decide for yourself.

    Until next time - have a great one!  Cheers!  / Ove C

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    Disclaimer: The opinions and material on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent Autodesk’s positions or opinions

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  • Sat in Cork Airport - Adding features to your cross sections

    Posted 06/14/07 by Jack Strongitharm

    So I have a couple of hours to kill in Cork airport after finishing my short tour around Ireland this week.
    The Guiness was good by the way in the Gravity Bar in Dublin!

    Gravity Bar Dublin.jpg
    Funny how most pictures of me are with a pint! I dont always drink you know!
    (from the left, Brian, Seamus, John and me Jack)

    Anyway back to the Civil stuff

    So here is a little area in Civil 3D that has been there from the last version (2007) and probably has been missed by most people, including myself to be honest!

    Within cross sections you can show where other alignments live on your cross sections. But if you think about it and look at what else is enabled is that you can also drop a block in the cross section/s.

    Final Section 1.jpg


    Here is how you do it

    1. If you want say a fenceline shown, convert a polyline into an Alignment for your fences

    Lines for fences small.jpg

    Alignment from polyline.jpg

    2. Go to a cross section and its properties and go to the Gradient Profile Lines tab.
    Here you can see that you can add alignments

    Section View Properties 1.jpg

    This will now draw a vertical line on the section to where those alignments are within your section

    Section View Properties 2.jpg

    3. To be able to drop in a block on the ground you need to create a profile for your fencelines

    Section View Properties 3.jpg

    4. Then go back to your section and properties. Remove the alignments and then readd them and you will find that profiles have been added and also that you can choose a marker

    Marker Style1.jpg

    If you have not looked at markers before, they are used through the program for labelling.
    The basics are that you can choose a cross, circle etc for a simple symbol but also you can choose to use an AutoCAD block that you can draw yourself

    Marker Style2.jpg

    In this case I have drawn a simple fence post and 3 rails

    5. Then when you say OK, you will find that your section now has the blocks shown and on the surface

    Final Section 1.jpg

    Final Section 2.jpg
    ( a bit zoomed in to save your eye sight)

    Now, if you want to update these to all your sections, in 2008 you can now change anything about them very quickly.

    Go to your sample line groups in the propector and right click into properties

    Sample Line Properties 1.jpg

    Sample Line Properties 2.jpg

    You could easily apply this technique to draw on other features such as lighting posts, walls etc.
    Just because it says an alignment does mean that is only what it can do. Think outside the box and how you apply the tools, or just keep watching this blog.

    By the way, if you move the alignments for the fences, rebuild the corridor and the fence blocks will move on the sections.

    You may notice that my cross sections have good text labels in the bands at the positions I need them at.
    My colleague, Joerg Pipo in Germany found a great way to make cross sections better.
    So I will try to explain this technique in the coming posts.

    Good weekend to you all, time to check in to go home!!

    Jack Strongitharm












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  • Using Data Shortcuts

    Posted 06/13/07 by Ove Cervin

    Hi all,
    After what I've heard more and more people are getting interested in how to share data. Most of the same people are not really in line with the thought of getting in to the Vault stuff yet (I'll get you there... ;-) )

    Here's the short and simple way to handle your shared data through Data shortcuts.

    If you have a project drawing like this one, with a road, some surfaces and a pipe network, you might want to reference some of it in to another drawing.
    15-0.png

    First - go to the menu "General" at the top.
    Select "Data Shortcuts" and "Edit Data Shortcuts..." in the menu.
    15-1.png

    This will bring up the "Data Shortcuts Vista". At the top you'll find some buttons where you can import, export, create, validate etc all shortcuts in the actual drawing.
    15-2.png

    Below I have created a few Data Shortcuts to my Surfaces, an Alignment and a Pipe Network using the button "Create data shortcut by selection". Pick the object on screen.
    This will get you a list/set of Data Shortcuts.
    15-3.png

    Then use the button "Export data shortcuts to file", or rightclick on data shortcut and select "Export to file..."
    When saving the XML-file with information on the data shortcuts, make sure you give it a good name. A suggestion is using something containing a project number, a site name or something to understand.
    Then open your new drawing where you want your data.
    Open the Data Shortcuts Vista through the General menu.
    Use the button "Import data shortcuts from file".
    When you have the shortcuts in the Vista window - rightclick on the object you want to reference. Select "Create reference...". (or use the button "Create reference")
    15-4.png

    Now we have the referenced data in the drawing. Of course you can have what ever style you want on the data - it IS Civil 3D after all... ;-)
    15-5.png

    Best regards / Ove C

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  • Draping photos on buildings

    Posted 06/12/07 by Jack Strongitharm

    Something a little more AutoCAD based this week.

    The other week we had a little extra event in Salzburg where we sent people out with a camera to take pictures of buildings in one of the squares there and to then drape those photos in AutoCAD Civil drawing in about 5 minutes or thereabouts.

    We had the square laser-scanned by Leica Geosystems, and aswell as creating a high end model that we used in a presentation along with Civil 3D. They also set up some very simple 3D faces for just the building facades so to simply apply a photo.

    Saltzburg Square Final Render.jpeg


    From the links below is a pdf file with some very simple instructions on how to do it.
    It is not the only way but it is just a simple way I thought of to just put your Civil design into context.
    Also below is a Civil 3D 2008 drawing and photographs to try out yourself.

    Applying Images to Building 3D Faces.pdf
    Building 1 Original.jpg
    Saltzburg_Square.dwg
    Building1 Fixed.jpg



    You realise now, why using AutoCAD in conjunction with Civil Engineering is such as good idea.
    Thanks again to Steven Ramsey and Leica Geosystems.

    Civil regards
    Jack Strongitharm

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  • Regression Analysis

    Posted 06/05/07 by Ove Cervin

    Hi again,
    It was a long time ago - sorry   ;-)
    I've been doing a lot (in my garden...) but finally I have now went through the new feature "Regression Analysis", or at least a bit of it...

    Below I'll try to explain how to use it when designing an Alignment.
    It's a lot of pictures below, but as they say, a pitures tells more than...

    If you for example have a bunch of measured points, like on a centerline, this is a good way to find the most correct approximation of where the line really is.
    Here's a set of Points, ordinary ACAD Points.
    14-1.png

    The new command is found under the menu "Lines/Curves".
    I'll start of by creating the line our of the Points.
    14-2.png

    Select "From AutoCAD points"
    14-2b.png

    When selecting - don't say you have missed the Selection method "WP" for Window Polygon, or "CP" for Crossing Polygon.
    They have been here for ages...  an excellent way to select the Points. It also gives you an idea of which points that are "in a line" when you draw the Polygon.
    14-3.png

    When you have done that - hit Enter. Then you'll see a red line presenting the approximation of the Centerline. Also a bunch of black/white crosses presenting which Point that have been used.
    14-4.png

    In the Panorama window (make sure you have it open) you get all data and also a graph presenting how the line is drawn and how far from each selected Point it is.
    14-5.png

    Here in the Panorama window you also have the option to mark a specific point (3) where the Line actually have to pass through.
    14-6.png

    When you select a Point to pass through the grapichs in the drawing presents the new position.
    14-7.png

    From the Panorama window you can also export the data to an ASCII-file or to Clipboard.
    14-8.png

    You can also Add or Remove Points from the Analysis.
    14-9.png

    When you close the Panorama window Vista the Line is drawn as an AutoCAD Line.
    14-10.png

    Do the same for the rest of the Points.
    14-11.png
    14-12.png

    ...and also for the ARC Points...
    14-13.png

    This gives you an ARC
    14-13b.png

    Open the command "Create Alignment by Layout".
    Use the command "Convert AutoCAD Line and Arc" to create the first Subentities of the Alignment. Use "Reverse subentity direction", if necessary, on some of the Subentities.
    14-14.png

    Now they are almost in place
    14-15.png

    Finally - add an Curve - done!
    14-16.png

    I'm pretty sure you find it useful also when doing design in other kind of projects - not only roads. As you saw there are more ways to do this, not only from Points.

    Try it out!   Cheers!  / Ove C

    Here are the sample files;
    one to start with and one complete

    Start:
    Download file

    Done:
    Download file

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